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Old 5th June 2008, 07:54 AM   #1
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How often does Google re-evaluate page rank for a site? Is it done everytime the site is spidered? I am working dilligently (although often in the dark) at trying to optimize my site and just wonder how quickly I might expect to see any results.

thanks for any advice,
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Old 5th June 2008, 09:02 AM   #2
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I believe it is four times a year, or once every three months, but I would double-check that to make sure.

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Old 5th June 2008, 09:47 PM   #3
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Google updates it's page rank several times a year. However don't get too caught up with that little green bar! Recently they just raised the bar too, to go from a PR 3 to PR 4 takes more work now than it did before.
Work on back links from quality sites with similar themes as yours.
Look at the page that the link is coming from before adding your link, if it is all "nofollowed" or has a ton of outbound links, you might want to move on. Don't just concentrate on your home page, work on getting links for your internal pages that will help your whole site.

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Old 6th June 2008, 01:49 PM   #4
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Are you talking about PageRank™, Google's patented method of measuring the strength of links pointing to your pages? (i.e. the little green bar in the Google tool bar)

Or are you talking about your search engine rankings (i.e. where your pages show up in the search results)?

The PageRank on the toolbar is updated about every 3-4 months, according to Google employee Matt Cutts. But that PageRank isn't the PageRank that's actually used in Google's rankings. It's an outdated and inaccurate approximation of what your page's PageRank might have been at some point in the past. And it's prone to glitches that send inexperienced webmasters into panic attacks ("My toolbar is greyed-out! Does this mean I've been banned?!?") when the only problem is the toolbar's having another hiccup.

That said, if you don't take it too seriously, it can be one of the general indicators of a page's overall "health" -- from the 30,000 foot view, that is. You can safely turn off the toolbar PR indicator if you want.

There's an internal PageRank number, which is what Google actually uses as but one of between 100 and 200 ranking factors. So as much press as it gets, it isn't as all-important as some might have you believe. Important, yes. The only thing you need to be concerned about, no.

Unlike the toolbar PR, which is expressed in whole numbers between one and ten, this internal PR is a fractional number between zero and one. Nobody outside the Googleplex knows what a page's "real" PR number is, and Google employees aren't talking. They consider the actual numbers and the details of exactly how the numbers are calculated to be trade secrets.

The internal, "real" PR number is updated continuously. As they discover new links pointing to your pages, as old links disappear or as the "weight" of existing links changes, your pages' PR number is updated.

If you're talking about the rankings in the search display, those also change all the time, with the added excitement that there are multiple datacenters, each with it's own version of the Google database. And these versions are never in 100% synchronization (too much data to move around from one place to another for that to happen), and when you run a search you never know which data center(s) you're going to hit. So your search rankings can appear to jump around all over the place, when the "problem" may simply be that when you search at different times (and sometimes even when you move from one page of the results to the next) you're hitting different datacenters with different versions of the database.

As with the internal PR, your search rankings are always changing, even apart from database sync issues. They make constant changes and tweaks to the ranking algorithm and are continually discovering and indexing new pages (and the links thereon) and revisiting old pages to re-evaluate their content and links.

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Old 10th June 2008, 03:05 PM   #5
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3-4 times a year is what I've heard from several very reliable sources. None that work at google, but SEO experts that I trust personally. Good luck.

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Old 11th June 2008, 01:21 AM   #6
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How often does Google re-evaluate page rank for a site? Is it done everytime the site is spidered? I am working dilligently (although often in the dark) at trying to optimize my site and just wonder how quickly I might expect to see any results.

thanks for any advice,
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I believe they evaluate the site PR every 3-4 months and calculate the quality of site backlinks.

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Old 23rd June 2008, 12:57 PM   #7
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yes...every three month once the Page Rank re-evaluate...

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Keep in mind, as I mentioned above, the PR that's updated every three or four months is only the displayed Toolbar PR, not the internal ("real") PR that's used in calculating your search engine rankings.

Toolbar PR is a largely meaningless number, so however often (or seldom) it gets updated isn't really significant.

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Thank you torka

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"Or are you talking about your search engine rankings (i.e. where your pages show up in the search results)?"

I was wondering too! But my blog entries show-up fairly quick.

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