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Old 28th May 2008, 11:43 AM   #1
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Getting input on which is more effective for generating traffic to your site,
YouTube or Google? Why do you feel this way?

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Old 28th May 2008, 03:53 PM   #2
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There is no answer to your question as it's posed because Google and YouTube are two different things.

If you have something that naturally lends itself to video, then YouTube can be very effective. If your pages are well optimized for high-traffic search terms, Google can also be very effective for generating traffic.

Then again, so can getting on the front page of Digg or Slashdot, or being featured in a major publication and getting a link from their site, or having an influential blogger or Twitterer mention your site in a post, or any of a dozen other things.

It isn't necessarily an either/or situation.

If you have strong video content that would be appropriate for YouTube, put it there and see what happens. It worked for Blendtec. But at the same time they were tearing up the charts on YouTube, Blendtec hasn't neglected "regular" search. Between their "WillItBlend.com" site, their blog and their main corporate site, they're very well represented in Google, too.

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Old 28th May 2008, 09:40 PM   #3
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Very eloquent and well-stated, Torka.

Both outlets, YouTube and Google, are extremely powerful at generating interest, traffic and overall awareness of your business. Just depends what you want each to do specifically. Each one also requires a different approach.

Of course, any marketing efforts you pursue should be managed after planning a little first, though. What marketing efforts are you currently employing?

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Old 29th May 2008, 08:31 AM   #4
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Google without question. Why?

Videos come and go - if you are there in the engines, you are there.
People watching a video then have to click through following that, of type in the URL. With a google search, people are already primed to click through, where as with you tube many people just want to watch videos.
People are looking for what you are offering. Videos may end up being seen by many people who are just watching videos. When someone does a google search for something, they are looking for it.

Hope this is useful - I'd be VERY interested to read a couter arguement.
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Old 29th May 2008, 10:19 AM   #5
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if you are there in the engines, you are there.
I dunno, on the two forums where I moderate we hear from an awful lot of business owners who thought that same as that and woke up one day to find their sites AWOL in Google (or Yahoo or MSN, or occasionally two of them, or even all three).

Doesn't have to mean you've been banned or that you did anything to anger the "SE gods." Algorithm updates, datacenter sync issues, general glitches, unintended side effects of well-intentioned site "improvements", loss or devaluation of a few powerful inbound links... there are any number of reasons why a seemingly invulnerable SE position can disappear overnight. Of course, there are also the situations where you -- however innocently -- did do something against the SEs' TOS. Anybody remember the Traffic Power debacle from a few years back? Lot of businesses who thought "once you're in the search engines, you're there" who found out differently then.

And the sad part is, if you've focused all your attentions on the "free" listings in the SEs, when your site disappears, you're pretty much sunk. It isn't easy to have to tell desperate business owners they've made a bad decision and now have to either start shelling out money they never budgeted to advertise or watch their business go down the drain, but unfortunately there's not much else we can do. Nobody can force the SEs to even index their site, much less award it high rankings.

On the other hand, once you post a video to YouTube it will stay there (unless it violates the law or the TOS of YouTube, of course) for all to see. Create a "channel" to house all your videos, and they'll all be right there and handy for anyone searching on your company name or on the topic of any of the videos.

And videos show up in regular search in Google, Yahoo and MSN.

Of course, this assumes you have something "video-worthy." There are plenty of videos out there that some company made because they thought they were "supposed" to make videos. If you don't have compelling video content, don't make a video.

But you may be surprised at what can be made video-worthy. I cited the example of Blendtec above. If you haven't looked at their "Will It Blend" series, you really should. (Trust me on this one.) Who would have thought kitchen blenders would make an excellent source of hilarious -- and astoundingly effective -- video content? But they did, and Blendtec has seen spectacular sales and revenue growth since they started the series.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying everybody needs to rush out and make videos. What I am saying is if you have or can think up something worthwhile you'd be remiss to overlook the potential of video -- or any other potential marketing channel, for that matter.

There is no need to focus only on a single channel. In fact, I'd say it's a very very bad idea. It's a dangerous game, putting all your eggs in one basket -- whether that basket is organic search, PPC, video, social marketing or whatever.

Absolutely, focus your attention primarily on the channels where you get the best bang for the buck. But I'd suggest to not write off any channel entirely. Your audience may shift their priorities and surfing habits at any time and on a moment's notice. If possible, you want to be sure no matter where they go, they'll find you already there waiting for them.

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Old 4th June 2008, 03:18 AM   #7
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It depends on the category of your site and its target market. If you have a music site then you can generate more traffic from youtube.

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Old 5th June 2008, 09:15 AM   #8
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YouTube can be great for a short term viral marketing campaign, but in the long run Google beats anything in online marketing because the organic rankings will get you the most traffic.

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I would go with youtube too, If you are looking for short term and quick traffic then youtube is too good.

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Do you mean Google Video or Google search results?

If you compare Google Video to YouTube, then I believe YouTube wins hands down. However, since Google owns it, it is pretty much the same:-)

I would say -- focus on Google SEO and if you plan to use a video marketing campaign - use YouTube.



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