Welcome to the Small Business Ideas Forum! We are a community of over 100,000 small business folks with over 163,000 posts for you to browse. We pride ourselves on being the friendliest forum you will find and we'd love to have you as a member of our community. Please take a moment and register for a free account. If you need any help, please contact Chris Logan.

Small Business Ideas Forum

Small Business Ideas Forum

A friendly place to share small business ideas and knowledge, ask questions, find help and encourage others that are involved in the small business industry. Topics include small business marketing, generating revenue and small business computing.

Go Back   Small Business Ideas Forum > Small Business Marketing - Online > Pay Per Click Advertising
Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 21st January 2008, 02:14 AM   #1
solid28
VIP Contributor
 

Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 218
Exclamation Google Keywords Tool...not Getting Any Search Volumes!

Hi everyone,

This is a question for those of you familiar with the google keyword tool.

The keyword tool normally gives you the relative volume of queries for a given keyword. That relative volume of keyword queries is given by the the green bar under the average search volume.

For example, if the bar next to keyword #10 is twice as long as the bar for keyword#2, then you can say that the search volume for keyword#1 is approxamately twice that of keyword #2.

Well my problem is that google is not displaying any of those bars...showing "no data" for all queries...even 'polpular keywords' like love or sex.

Is anyone else having the same problem? Maybe its b/c I am in Taiwan...but I just used the tool 3 days [email protected][email protected] Is it a Y-2.008-K bug?

Thanks for your response,
Evan Jerkunica

__________________
Traveling Healthy! ~ traveler's food sickness is a thing of the past.
Maps for Taipei Tourists ~the interactive Taiwan Map
solid28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Register or log in to remove this ad.
Old 21st January 2008, 02:55 AM   #2
Logan
Administrator
 

Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Colorado
Posts: 8,046
Default

I'm getting "no data" also under avg searches for a couple keywords I checked and know have some popularity. Looks to me this one is on Google's end right now Evan. The only column I have any green bars is under Advertiser Competition.

__________________
Search Engine Guide - Small Business Guide to Search Marketing
Small Business Brief - Small Business Ideas Forum, Articles & News
Logan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd January 2008, 04:01 AM   #3
solid28
VIP Contributor
 

Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 218
Smile

I asked the same question over in the google adwords group and here is the response I got:

http://groups.google.com/group/adwor...419d2f47902e8b
An individual over in Europe is having the same problem.


Logan, are you located in the US, Europe, Down Under?


Are people in the united states having the same problem?


Warm Regards,
Evan Jerkunica

__________________
Traveling Healthy! ~ traveler's food sickness is a thing of the past.
Maps for Taipei Tourists ~the interactive Taiwan Map
solid28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd January 2008, 10:36 AM   #4
Logan
Administrator
 

Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Colorado
Posts: 8,046
Default

Evan, I am in the US

__________________
Search Engine Guide - Small Business Guide to Search Marketing
Small Business Brief - Small Business Ideas Forum, Articles & News
Logan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd January 2008, 11:04 AM   #5
veikoh
Member
 
veikoh's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Belfast
Posts: 30
Default

I do not trust the Google Keyword suggestion tool at all. For professional use is Wordtracker and Trellian bot are available as free trials.

veikoh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd January 2008, 01:10 PM   #6
Logan
Administrator
 

Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Colorado
Posts: 8,046
Default

I use those too. Paid versions. But also use other keyword tools. It isn't a matter of trust but sample data to consider, imo.

I'm not sure if this is flying under the radar, or if we are missing something obvious Evan.

__________________
Search Engine Guide - Small Business Guide to Search Marketing
Small Business Brief - Small Business Ideas Forum, Articles & News
Logan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd January 2008, 10:56 PM   #7
solid28
VIP Contributor
 

Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 218
Smile

The problem has been resolved! Thanks alot for responding logan; it was comforting to know that I wasnt the only one experiencing the problem


Quote:
Originally Posted by veikoh View Post
I do not trust the Google Keyword suggestion tool at all. For professional use is Wordtracker and Trellian bot are available as free trials.
What do you base your mistrust on? Inside information? Suspicion of google? Monetary incentive (cough, affiliate links)?


Anywho, I use both of those services as well. I like them but they have unrepresentative sample sizes for the majority of the terms in my niche. Now that overture is gone, they are pretty much my go to for numbers on search volume.


So I feel that KD & WT are great for the most popular terms; I feel there estimates are good to within a factor of 3 to 1/3. So I take the search volume of a more popular term, look at the relative average search volume for other terms using google's keyword tool, and then I have an estimate for the search volume of a particular term in all search engines. The final estimate is probably good to a factor of 5 to 10.

All the best,
Evan Jerkunica

__________________
Traveling Healthy! ~ traveler's food sickness is a thing of the past.
Maps for Taipei Tourists ~the interactive Taiwan Map
solid28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd January 2008, 05:00 PM   #8
Logan
Administrator
 

Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Colorado
Posts: 8,046
Default

SEO Book's tool is a good way to make some quick comparisons between the various tools

Glad it is fixed. Thanks for keeping us posted Evan!

__________________
Search Engine Guide - Small Business Guide to Search Marketing
Small Business Brief - Small Business Ideas Forum, Articles & News
Logan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th January 2008, 03:30 AM   #9
solid28
VIP Contributor
 

Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 218
Smile

Quote:
Originally Posted by Logan View Post
Thanks for keeping us posted Evan!
My pleasure

I'd love to spend more time here posting but I have been busy having a blast working and learning Chinese in Taiwan...who knew life could be so fun

But it's nice to know I can still come here for help and support

__________________
Traveling Healthy! ~ traveler's food sickness is a thing of the past.
Maps for Taipei Tourists ~the interactive Taiwan Map
solid28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th January 2008, 02:20 AM   #10
Crimson Fox
Senior Member
 
Crimson Fox's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 452
Default

I've started reverse engineering the pay per click system. I've been getting some really useful results based on impressions and keeping tight regional targets.

__________________
Have you seen our services in:
Brand Advertising, Marketing and Visual Design Promotion
and don't forget The Brand Design Blog
Crimson Fox is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply   

Bookmarks




Thread Tools

Get Updates
RSS Feeds:
RSS Feed for Pay Per Click Advertising RSS for this Category Only: Pay Per Click Advertising

RSS Feed for Small Business Ideas Forum RSS for Entire Forum
Forum Rules


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


Small Business Ideas Forum


 
At Your Business - Small Business Directory
Free Business Forms - Prewritten Documents
 
Search Engine Guide
Small business guide to search marketing

 
Small Business Brief
Fetching the Best Small Business Info


Free Links - Free Advertising
Free Guide - Online Directory



Advertise your business here
Contact us for more details!


Semantic Juice
Register now to access free Quick SEO service!


Rocket Lawyer
Sign up for free 7 day trial. Boost your biz!


Buy UPC Codes
Get your products listed online!




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:43 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2004 - 2018 - Privacy