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Old 17th May 2010, 03:11 PM   #11
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Quote 3 - to put it simply…more hard work for me. That means I have to write more content to fit in the other H2 and H3 tag. If my competitor done well on and off page SEO then I’ll see what weaknesses they have that I could possible improve on.
Okay, we each have our own ways. I just don't approach things that way. I just take the approach of my time is best spent writing content versus researching details like that.

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Basically I find all their back links, and use only their top Page Ranking sites to link to my site.
Nice job. See fresh air does work. The way I would word it is ... I research competitors backlinks and then try to get those sites with a PR3+ to also link to my site. Yes. good.

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Also I research how many times they have use Anchor keyword and make mine more.
I don't look at specific sites, but I do look at allinanchor: search in a similar way to allintitle. The recent version of wordtracker now includes these within their [Get additional metrics] link when doing keyword research. Personally, I don't count anchor text as you do. I include the anchor text within the menu navigation structure based on how important I want it to be within my site.

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Old 24th May 2010, 07:13 AM   #12
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Yes writing good quality content is great, that’s why they say content is king.
But as I have a more analytical background I tend lean towards H tag method.

Regarding back-links I also get links from unrelated sites. I used to think that would effect my ranking but it doesn’t, only if I link back to them. You need to have some reciprocal but only with related sites, this will make it look natural to Google.

Most of the site that I’m trying to out rank have their anchor text within the menu navigation. Therefore I find it the easier to out rank them is to match or beat the amount of anchor text they have.

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Old 24th May 2010, 11:15 AM   #13
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I agree that I haven't seen any real negative to link-building with unrelated sites. But generally I try to stay as relevant as possible. I do still focus most of my time on creating links using original content.

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I have been following a site on makeup artist for a few months now.

It’s been ranking number one for numerous keywords and has backlinks of about 500,000.

95% of the back links are from porn sites!

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Old 1st June 2010, 01:07 PM   #15
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First of all to the OP, searching for a keyword phrase in quotes and looking at the result count is a very poor way of gauging the competitiveness of the phrase. You are much better off looking at the result counts for:

allintitle:my keyword phrase
allinurl:my keyword phrase
allinanchor:my keyword phrase

or better yet looking for exact matches as in:

intitle:"my keyword phrase"
inurl:"my keyword phrase"
intitle:"my keyword phrase" inurl:"my keyword phrase"
etc.

These are much better for guaging how competitive a phrase is than simply searching for the phrase in quotes.

About relevancy of inbound links... Google is probably the most sophisticated search engine for analyzing inbound links. But even they are not "that" sophisticated IMO.

The want you to think they are only counting relevant links but this is not always the case. They likely do this in certain industries where blackhat techniques are rampant like online gambling. But not likely in other sites.

The most important characteristic of a back link is the link text itself... then if it's from a relevant URL, great... bonus! If it's from a high PR site, great... bonus!

But the MOST imporant characteristic of a link that is going to make the target of that link rank for a particular keyword phrase is having the phrase (or a slight variation of the phrase) as the link text for the link.

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good topic and can you tell me what keyword research tool do you use?

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good topic and can you tell me what keyword research tool do you use?
I use lots of different tools... Hitwise, ComScore, SpyFu, I look at my clients Adwords account which provides a ton of information on what people are searching for and what converts, I use Adwords keyword tool, I use Google, I crawl competitor sites and get the <title> and <meta name="keywords"> element values from their pages to see what they are targeted, etc. I use anything available that can help me gain insight into my client's industry and the keywords that drive traffic and conversions.

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I use several different tools as well. Google Adwords tool and SpyFu are my two favorites.

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Old 30th July 2010, 01:38 PM   #19
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By the way - there's a great keyword research tool. Semrush, have you tried it? Strongly recommended

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I have started using semrush as well and agree that it's really good.

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