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Old 1st February 2010, 08:43 PM   #31

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It's a combination of seo, secret tricks, reviews, citations, profile completeness, profile uniformity among all of the local directories, minor website alterations, etc.

It's not as simple as making a bunch of reviews.

I got an optometrist in Las Vegas ranked on the first page for all of these phrases:

Las Vegas Optometrists
Las Vegas Optometry
Las Vegas Eye Doctor
Las Vegas Eye Center
Las Vegas Vision Center
Las Vegas Eyeglasses

It's domination at it's finest, and his visits doubled overnight. He had to hire more staff after I was done.

I would recommend getting a professional to do it.

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Old 4th February 2010, 09:04 AM   #32
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I'm going to try and getter better understanding of the patents Bill reads about and I'm inviting people over to refugee to see if we can get an understanding of this.

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Old 26th February 2010, 12:55 PM   #33
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Default The End Of Google Local Listings ?

Originally Posted by royhunters View Post
Want to increase your rank in local search.. get all your friends to write a review for your business. That is one of the "flaws" of google's local search. It is very easy to trump the results.

I remember seeing an article or thread somewhere where a locksmith company did just that and they occupied ALL the local search results for locksmiths.
IMHO, Google Local has become a Joke.
Word is out that Google will do NOTHING to spammers.
The spammers and liars are spamming the heck out of our local listings.
I have reported them so much I finally gave up.
Google don't even reply to help forum or report spam threads.
I think we are gonna see the End Of Google Local Listings very soon.
It has been totally out of control for a long time now.

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Old 11th August 2010, 05:01 PM   #34
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There are many factors that Google appears to consider in determining how to rank businesses for a particular keyword search. We have seen evidence of Google beginning to crack down on some of the obvious abuses. Google local seems to be a focal point of Google strategy (Google Tags rollout) and I think that the results will not only improve but become increasingly more competitive to rank well.

Businesses that do not follow the quality guidlines set forth by Google will run into trouble at some point. Best bet is to stick to an ethical approach to building a solid listing and do you homework to understand more about how Google goes about determining which listings will rank higher. There are similarites to SEO, but there are plenty of differences as well.

Citations are a common thing that business owners overlook. Citations is one of the way that Google can confirm information about your listings accuracy as well popularity. It take a consistent approach to maintain a solid "local presence" around the web, but businesses that make the effort will be rewarded.

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Old 12th August 2010, 02:43 PM   #35
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The rank depends mostly on the output in your industry with google.

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Old 15th September 2010, 06:20 PM   #36

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I think Bill posts here quite a bit so hopefully he'll stop by and give input.

I've used this example a few times before... For at least a year and a half, this Minneapolis Pizza joint has basically owned the #1 local spot for that term.

It includes references from a number of local portals, and a DexOnline listing. The references include hours of operations, reviews, payments accepted, etc... The site doesn't have any optimization, although seems to have a bunch of natural incoming links. For this local business anyway, their local/maps results are a lot less of optimization and more of just good marketing... and a really fun anniversary block party every summer.

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Old 22nd September 2010, 12:50 PM   #37
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To rank well with Google Maps, you need to think relevance....totally when constructing your listing. And the other thing is that if you are given spots to put something in (images, videos and citations) you need to look at the limit as your minimum. For instance, when you are given 10 slots for images, you need to use them all.


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Old 23rd September 2010, 01:11 PM   #38
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The two most important elements to ranking well in Google Local Search (now Google Places) are;

1. Keyword research. A moderate-sized list of the most highest-searched keywords in your market should be compiled as the first step. When you put together your listing, these keywords should be optimized.

2. Reviews. All things being equal, the site with the most reviews will rank higher. There are several "review" directories it is important to have a listing in. In addition, there should be a proactive methodology in place to get as many reviews from satisfied customers as possible.

There are a good half dozen other techniques to get ranked on Google's first page under Google Maps, but starting with these two will get you going.

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I am a places outsource guy for other consultants, so...I would only agree to an extent with you, Bob my friend (nice to meet you).

It is not always possible to get reviews especially when you have or you are working with a new business. For instance, consider my listing for lead generation in Harrisburg. You can see my map for the following listings:

sales lead generation Harrisburg (put the PA on if you like but you don't have to)
lead generation Harrisburg
Leads Harrisburg
Business Leads Harrisburg
Sales Leads Harrisburg

You can look at any combination of leads, business leads, sales lead generation or anything else; there were no reviews to speak of and you will find my map there. However, that said, what happens when there are reviews or if they show up after the fact?

Take a look at this:


Reviews are outranked

That is why you have to go after ALL of those other relevant factors, at the start.

There are ways to outrank those with lots of reviews using total white hat methods, if you keep relevance in mind and do everything that Google both tells you to do and allows you to do.


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