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Old 25th April 2008, 03:29 PM   #1
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Default Define These Please - PR vs SERP

The difference between PR and SERP and how to find this information about websites

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Old 25th April 2008, 04:16 PM   #2
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PR (PageRank): http://www.seobook.com/glossary/#pagerank
SERP: http://www.seobook.com/glossary/#serp

Sometimes people use SERP to mean location on the SERP ("I've got a SERP of 5, meaning I'm in the 5th position). This is colloquial usage and not really accurate.

To determine SERPs, search for something in Google.
To determine PR download the Google toolbar: http://toolbar.google.com/

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Old 25th April 2008, 04:58 PM   #3
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I've always thought the term 'serp' stood for Search Engine Result Placement

I use the term to denote an overall location...

"My page was third in the serps" or

"the site can't be found in the serps"

PR or PageRank is a mathematical equation used as part of Google's overall ranking algorithm. It is called that after the man that wrote it (Larry Page).

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I've always thought the term 'serp' stood for Search Engine Result Placement
"My page was third in the serps" or
"the site can't be found in the serps"
I think we're saying the same thing. As I would expect from my recent experience with you in Houston, you say it more clearly

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Yep, splitting hairs probably. But my understanding has been that the "P" does stand for page, used as a noun. The term was originally coined by members of webmaster world and "technically" serp stands for search engine result page as in the pages that are returned after the search query is entered. That's my understanding at least

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That's been my understanding as well, Logan.

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Old 28th April 2008, 11:57 AM   #7
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OK, if one waned o find out the serp for his site on Google, how would he go about that? outside of going through every page that is listed.

And besides creating backlinks, is there another practice to help create a better serp?

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One free tool that you can check your rankings is -

http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/keywords/

I usually don't go by checking my rankings in the search engines, but instead monitor which keywords are providing referrals. As a ranking that doesn't provide traffic isn't worth monitoring much. I use www.hittail.com and google analytics for that.

Regarding rankings, backlinks are important but also can you expand your content to target more keywords?

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SERP results are based on how relevant your keywords are, and page rank is a measure of how trustworthy google thinks your site is based on how many other ranked sites trust your site by linking to it. There are other factors as well, but nobody knows for sure what those are.

There are firefox browser plugins that you can use to monitor pagerank and it is updated infrequently, without warning, and only if the moon is in the third quarter on a Tuesday if it is raining. At least that's what the psychic said the last time I asked. (Kidding!)

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It seems to get confusing, if you let yourself dwell on this whole thing for awhile. Hopefully, I will see some results soon.

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