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Old 24th February 2015, 06:04 PM   #31
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Maybe its better to let this one go....

Good dream! But from what Im reading, its hard to make any money from this. AND, I have no experience with horses....

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Old 24th February 2015, 06:06 PM   #32
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Current ideas tho...

- Casino Security

- Nursing

- US Coast Guard (As an officer...gotta get my degree first)

- Paramedic



no particulaer order except Coast Guard gets me the most exciting. Very competitive tho.

Thing is, none of them are businesses that I would own. Id either be Govt., or working for someone else.....

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Old 24th February 2015, 08:40 PM   #33
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Let's not just dismiss it, Mike - Crazy ideas can tell us things. There was something about the racehorse idea that turned you on. There was something about the NFL franchise that turned you on some time ago, and something about owning a gym turned you on, perhaps before that. What is the common denominator?

You see, if we can find out exactly what it was that turned you on in these cases, and we can isolate it, it's possible it can lead you to something that will turn you on in the same way but something that will be much easier - and faster - to bring about. Get the idea?

So, if you can put your finger on the common factor that turned you on in each of those cases, tell us what it is. If it is not immediately apparent, we will have to start digging.

What excited you about those three ideas? Anything come to mind?

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Old 24th February 2015, 09:39 PM   #34
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Let's not just dismiss it, Mike - Crazy ideas can tell us things. There was something about the racehorse idea that turned you on. There was something about the NFL franchise that turned you on some time ago, and something about owning a gym turned you on, perhaps before that. What is the common denominator?

You see, if we can find out exactly what it was that turned you on in these cases, and we can isolate it, it's possible it can lead you to something that will turn you on in the same way but something that will be much easier - and faster - to bring about. Get the idea?

So, if you can put your finger on the common factor that turned you on in each of those cases, tell us what it is. If it is not immediately apparent, we will have to start digging.

What excited you about those three ideas? Anything come to mind?
The thing about the NFL Franchise and Racehorse idea is essentially the same. Im a Cowboys fan, and when I think business I think Jerry Jones!

Theres just something about the idea of owning spectacle sport franchise/horse and running the show. Bringing in players to draft, signing free agents, making trades, cutting people, etc. - I do this in the madden video game routinely, making new franchise and just simulating the games in order to build better teams and do the behind the scenes stuff!

I just translated this over to horseracing...I just think it would be so exciting to watch the horse I OWN, running to win! I mean could you imagine not having that as the horse you picked to win the race, but the horse you actually OWN, TRAINED, FED, AFRE OUT THERE EVERY DAY WITH!?! And then it WINS! Duuuuudddeeee...AMAZING! - Ive never been good at sports even though I am 6'3 220lbs and not in bad shape. So maybe it just has somthin to do with that.



The gym Idea to me, was just something I thought wouldn't be to hard because Ive been working out for like 13 years and have a lot of experience in working out. I just thought it would be a good business to open and eventually franchise out of or maybe just have run with a manager. Only problem is people who workout, atleast that im familiar with, typically have a personality I don't like so Im just not sure about this one anymore....

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Old 25th February 2015, 02:45 PM   #35
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That's a good start, Mike. Practical thoughts about "doing the business" and the enjoyment of actually participating.

Now, I want you to shift your thinking from your head to your heart. What do you FEEL when you envisage YOUR horse winning a race? Dig for the words. I mean, "awesome" might be how you feel but it doesn't tell us much. Look for words like "proud" or "excited" "important" -- whatever YOU feel deep down.

Likewise, How do you feel when you play your football video game and you make a great decision and it pays off? Imagine how you would feel if it was a real-life situation. You need words that describe WHAT you are feeling rather than HOW you are feeling. "successful" "competent" "significant" or whatever YOU feel.

What did you feel when the gym idea was new? Did you imagine yourself as a personal trainer, working with and advising customers? What did you feel then, "important?" "accomplished?" independent?"

I realize this may sound a bit "girly" to you, Mike. Getting in touch with their feelings is something women do well and men hardly ever do. But men experience the same emotions women do, only we keep our emotions to ourselves, we tend to hide them and never, never examine them. That is our loss!

If you will dig deep and ask, What am I feeling when such-and-such happens? What is the feeling underlying that feeling? What lies under THAT? ... you will gain an insight into what will serve you as a career or a business.

Just think how convenient it would be if the "AWESOME" you described over witnessing YOUR horse winning the Preakness, was actually the same basic feeling you can feel when saving someone's life as a paramedic. And if the "independence" you feel as a gym owner can be translated into independence as the owner of an ambulance company with branches all over the country.

Don't take any of these ideas as businesses to consider. Not yet. First, do your digging and find your passion. It is in you. You just have to find it.

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Old 25th February 2015, 04:50 PM   #36
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Different, unique, and special - doing something that isn't common, average, or "run of the mill."

High status, extremely successful, very important.

Independent (both financially and no boss wise).

Excited, motivated, interested, consumed.

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Old 25th February 2015, 05:27 PM   #37
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You seem like you know your ****, and Ive been thinking lately....

I can go to the gym to get big and muscular....but it takes time.

I can go to school to get a degree...but it takes time.

I can save money...but its takes time.

I CAN - I can do things in my life. BUT it all TAKES TIME!

So the question is, how do I get the mentality to just accept things taking time. It seems to be the biggest problem I have! I DONT WANNA WAIT!

For a while I thought I was just being lazy, but I had an "epiphany" tonight and realization that I can actually work pretty hard, when my mentality is right - ACCEPTING THAT THINGS TAKE TIME!

So how do I get the right mentality???
Recapping, because we moved on past this but I didn't want to leave it unattended.

Yes, it is true - things take time. And everything that is anything seems to take the longest time of all. Here's a way that can alleviate the problem that this causes -

1. Realize and remember (and keep reminding yourself) that the longer it takes the more worthwhile it is, and the more important it is to your success. Create a short dialog to this effect, write it down and read it aloud to yourself every night before you go to sleep.

2. Break long term goals into short-term objectives. IOW, create a plan with definite measurable steps. This way, the long time element for the whole task is broken into smaller chunks. (In coaching, we call this Chunking.) Now treat each step (each chunk) as your main focus and, because it is smaller and thus of shorter duration, you get it completed before boredom sets in. Then you're off on the next part of the plan.

3. Having realized that you CAN work very hard when your mentality is right, I would like to see you post here every occasion you have worked very hard and tell us what your mentality was at that time.

I look forward to reading your response.

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Fortunatly im 27 years old and although have limited skills and talents, I a do have some!

My hobbies are going down the shore which would include various thing aswell as working out.

My past jobs were customer service oreinted (Casino's and Retail) aswell as Transportation (Delivering stuff- I have a CDL that I haven't used and to be honest Id prefer to keep it that way - Im really not very interested in driving...I need more excitment)

I have 0 start up. I have 2 options here, to drop shool and work 2 jobs to build capital which would take a few years, or to stay in school and to work one job which would take even longer to build capitol but upon graudating would probably catch up!


In short...I believe I can do this...make the money I am looking to do, and not be so lazy. I believe that the thought of not getting paid much has made me lazy but I feel as if the right career (be it a business or job) and the right amount of money would greatly effect my work ethic.
Recapping "Fortunately I am 27"---

para.1. "Unfortunately i'm 27 years old and have no skillls or talents." to "Fortunately im 27 years old and although have limited skills and talents, I a do have some!" Great mental shift!

para.2. "I have no hobbies, except..." has become "My hobbies are, including..." same facts, positive attitude. Excellent!

para.3. "I hate driving" has become "not very interested in driving." Fabulous reframe.

para.4. "no startup" with excuses has become "no startup" with options. Superb positive attitude.

para.5. "I'm screwed." to "I can do this." This is a whole paradigm shift in itself. Wonderful!

Do you see how the first version left you with no path forward and this version is all about forward movement?

You will probably have to make a conscious effort to do this for a while but it will eventually become a new positive mentality.

Good job, Mike!


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Old 25th February 2015, 07:43 PM   #39
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Recapping, because we moved on past this but I didn't want to leave it unattended.

Yes, it is true - things take time. And everything that is anything seems to take the longest time of all. Here's a way that can alleviate the problem that this causes -

1. Realize and remember (and keep reminding yourself) that the longer it takes the more worthwhile it is, and the more important it is to your success. Create a short dialog to this effect, write it down and read it aloud to yourself every night before you go to sleep.

2. Break long term goals into short-term objectives. IOW, create a plan with definite measurable steps. This way, the long time element for the whole task is broken into smaller chunks. (In coaching, we call this Chunking.) Now treat each step (each chunk) as your main focus and, because it is smaller and thus of shorter duration, you get it completed before boredom sets in. Then you're off on the next part of the plan.

3. Having realized that you CAN work very hard when your mentality is right, I would like to see you post here every occasion you have worked very hard and tell us what your mentality was at that time.

I look forward to reading your response.

1.) The problem with this is that Ill be so old by the time I get there! That's what makes me sad and sets me back.

2.) I guess Ive done that with school. Taking it one semester at a time.

3.) 2009- spring semester - never took school serious and began to take it serious. I worked HARD and still only got C's. I was dizzy, had a burning in my chest, and was stressed through the roof...but passed. Very miserable but exciting time.

2011-2012, I was working fulltime and working hard at my job. I was also taking classes at night twice per week to get my associates degree. I just remember being miserable because I hated the job! Same burning stressed feeling. Not even fun at all looking back.

2014- when I started working at the casino. I was doing everything right and was just constantly trying to improve. Was having a ball. It came to be that they just demanded so much customer service wise that I started looking like an idiot doing EVERYTHING management asked. I start to cut a corner here and there when they weren't around and before I knew it, I wasn't doing my job unless I absolutely needed to. Got bored very quickly and just lost motivation after that.

2008-2011 - I was in the gym RELIGIOUSLY. Never would miss a workout, never would cut a workout short, ate very healthy...rarely had a cheat meal. I got to the point where I was "top dog" in my gym. Felt like it was a waste, like I was nothing more than looks. (had no job and wasnt really in school - no gf, no friends, etc.) Eventually realized I felt extremely empty and lot interest that I once had.

2015- beginning of my new class, I was reading and really into the work...studying and doing really well. Than I just started to see that some things I didn't NEED to do and now my grades and knowledge of new stuff are not as good. I feel like im half assing it but I cant seem to find the interest or work ethic I had in the beginning.


Its like everytime I work hard im miserable. I just don't get it....

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Old 25th February 2015, 07:47 PM   #40
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I still think I need something more stimulating.

That's why I picked u this EMT class...for a more interesting exciting different kind of job that I wont be doing th same thing every day. Problem is I wont get paid very well.

IDK man, when I look at something like the Coast Guard...it seems to have everything Im looking for. But then certain "issues" and "records" stop me from joining...

Even with Nursing, I cannot go into the program until my record says "no record" which means I need it expunged....

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