Hi Jenn. We are in complete agreement as I used to sell online "Preview Ads", and some of the B2B advertisers couldn't care less about the quality of the ad design, content, or useability (custom landing page links for specific ad locations).
I think the SEO not only needs to "have an ability to offer up input" on site useability, compelling copy, and value pricing, they need contractural assurances that major recommendations will be adopted. The "stick out like a sore thumb" things can be discussed, upfront, to see if cooperation on the part of the client is even possible. "Pricing" should be at least competitively justified with quality thrown in to get "value pricing" (if pricing is given on the web site). Site useability & compelling copy, theoretically, should be "no brainer's", but I'm sure corporate staff shortages, branding and "corporate rules" can get in the way.
My point was on Karri's use of the word "partner". It is a term that I've heard used many ways in business for many years. I agree with her entire article except for this sentence: "Attempting to quantify and guarantee results is a dangerous gamble for both parties." I think major attempts to quantify "conversion actions" vs. SERP ranking results should be in the "Partnership Agreement" =
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partnership_agreement. As those "conversion actions" increase, the SEO's compensation should increase somehow.
However, both partners need to be "cooperators" (associates "who work together for a common goal") =
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cooperator
I hope things are going good for your charitable cause of:
http://thelactivist.blogspot.com/200...eocontest.html